cynicz 7 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 Need some input. looking to go as cheap as possible while shooting for 8-10 bots. Criticism on this build? Will the 8320 hold 8-10bots stable? I will be using the win7 Lite OS just like I do on all my VMs. benchmarks for 8320 vs 2600k are 8118 vs 8550 roughly. so its 400 less benchmark score than my 2600k, and i run 7 bots at 92% on it. will the 8320 be significantly less or what should I expect? Will the GPU cause problems only being 1gb? I currently use a 2gb GPU but IDK how much I actually use. only using 800mb ram per bot. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2qxjP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aeiz 159 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 should be fine just increase paging, to covr the rest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicz 7 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 anything i can go cheaper on or is that pretty much the minimal? also how do i adjust paging and whats the science behind it? like what does it do to increase botting performance? Pronoob said something about that on skype a week back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lalelu 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 8-10 VM's on this machine? no. i don't want to be rude, but with VMs so many things can go wrong. When i was botting Diablo 3 i had 11 Bots running. No problems or at least only few problems. When i started VM’s and PoE i got the best result with only 3 VM’s… you know what i mean? Although i used almost every guide for tweaking windows/poe etc. My Laptop got similar stats as your setup above, only i7 cpu instead. With 4 VMs the fan is at maximum speed and hot air is flowing. 8 VM’s? Never ever… I wish anyone here who’s running 7 or 8 Bots FLAWLESS (no stupid swagger) (no crashes, no network troubles, no stuttering) would share his complete setup. Not minimal information like "build your rig, use walters guide, set up 8 VM's with win7 lite, download poe and bot, run" Because it will NOT work as intended Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatshacker 32 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Will the 8320 hold 8-10bots stable? yep but depends on your cpu cooling, definitely not with a stock fan cooler, maybe 8 with a hypercool but easily with a cpu water cooler. also your psu might be too low, i'd recommend something atleast 550w+ (sometihng like this) Edited January 31, 2014 by hatshacker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drmaboul 3 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 GPU is really not important, 1gb is fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefNoob 2 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) 8-10 VM's on this machine? no. i don't want to be rude, but with VMs so many things can go wrong. When i was botting Diablo 3 i had 11 Bots running. No problems or at least only few problems. When i started VM’s and PoE i got the best result with only 3 VM’s… you know what i mean? Although i used almost every guide for tweaking windows/poe etc. My Laptop got similar stats as your setup above, only i7 cpu instead. With 4 VMs the fan is at maximum speed and hot air is flowing. 8 VM’s? Never ever… I wish anyone here who’s running 7 or 8 Bots FLAWLESS (no stupid swagger) (no crashes, no network troubles, no stuttering) would share his complete setup. Not minimal information like "build your rig, use walters guide, set up 8 VM's with win7 lite, download poe and bot, run" Because it will NOT work as intended You are so wrong my friend, I have 8320, changed cooler, I can run 6 VM+bots+scripts at 70% load, the only reason why I don't run 8 VM's is because I only have 8 GB DDR3. (this CPU is also overclockable if you need to get some extra juice) AMD 8 core will get you better multi-tasking performance than I7 and for much better price (since intel does not provide 8 real cores for desktop machines). You could also stretch your budget to get the 8350, it's probably worth the extra 30-40$. GPU does not matter that much so don't invest too much into it. My complete setup: (Please note this is a dedicated botting rig, I can use it for other stuff but I choose not to) 120 GB SSD Kingston (a SSD is definetely a must, or multiple HDD's with good speeds) AMD 8320 CPU Black Edition (Change stock cooler, that's a MUST, I have http://www.deepcoolglobal.com/product/cpucooler/2013-12/7_512.shtml and I rarelyr go over 30 degrees Celsius even on high load) AMD 7770 HD Sapphire GPU 1GB DDR5 (Cheaper GPU's might work as well) Gigabyte 970a-ude3 (Mobo must support frequent high transfer rates) 8 GB DDR3 (I need to upgrade this to 12 if I want to use 8 bots+) 660W + Bronze Certified PSU Seasonic (This can be lower) Edited January 31, 2014 by ChiefNoob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicz 7 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) 8-10 VM's on this machine? no. i don't want to be rude, but with VMs so many things can go wrong. When i was botting Diablo 3 i had 11 Bots running. No problems or at least only few problems. When i started VM’s and PoE i got the best result with only 3 VM’s… you know what i mean? Although i used almost every guide for tweaking windows/poe etc. My Laptop got similar stats as your setup above, only i7 cpu instead. With 4 VMs the fan is at maximum speed and hot air is flowing. 8 VM’s? Never ever… I wish anyone here who’s running 7 or 8 Bots FLAWLESS (no stupid swagger) (no crashes, no network troubles, no stuttering) would share his complete setup. Not minimal information like "build your rig, use walters guide, set up 8 VM's with win7 lite, download poe and bot, run" Because it will NOT work as intended you are SO very wrong. I run 7 (Could run 8 but only have 7 license) on my 2600k rig. Absolutely 100% flawless. i travel on the road around the us for 1 week at a time and i run 24/7 those whole weeks unless their is an update. Thanks for input guys. whats everyones input on running with no case and just straight open air, and pointing a personal little fan directly on the rig to keep it cool? whats a good watercooler also? my 2600k uses a junking coolermaster watercooler i paid 30$ for at microcenter. Edited January 31, 2014 by cynicz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefNoob 2 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 you are SO very wrong. I run 7 (Could run 8 but only have 7 license) on my 2600k rig. Absolutely 100% flawless. i travel on the road around the us for 1 week at a time and i run 24/7 those whole weeks unless their is an update. Thanks for input guys. whats everyones input on running with no case and just straight open air, and pointing a personal little fan directly on the rig to keep it cool? whats a good watercooler also? my 2600k uses a junking coolermaster watercooler i paid 30$ for at microcenter. Don't get watercooler, I documented myself a little, and a 100$ watercooler will perform as a 20-30$ air cooler, it's not worth it. (Also cheap watercoolers are uber crap from my experience, check my post up^ for the cheap aircooler I use, it works great and it comes with termal paste on it as well) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicz 7 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Don't get watercooler, I documented myself a little, and a 100$ watercooler will perform as a 20-30$ air cooler, it's not worth it. (Also cheap watercoolers are uber crap from my experience, check my post up^ for the cheap aircooler I use, it works great and it comes with termal paste on it as well) ok should I go open air and save myself the 50$ on the case? also be better airflow with a fan pointed directly on everything. Cheif you got skype mate? Edited January 31, 2014 by cynicz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lalelu 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 well. now i get the information i needed... at least a part of it... The most important information is that you admit: running multiple VM's is a huge HEAT producer... you never talked about this until i stepped into the discussion... - amd instead of intel... i always used i7 when i was botting Diablo 3... in fact i cannot switch my cpu again... a i7 cannot be so much behind amd?? - cooling ... my gaming laptop got a decent cooling system, but i guess not enough. so again... i am limited because i don't want to burn my laptop with 7 or 8 vm's.... So this struggles me: Laptop > XMG P722 PRO Gaming Notebook 43,9cm (17.3") . 43,9cm (17.3") Full-HD> > (1920*1080) Non-Glare . 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M 1536MB GDDR5 | TDP:> > 2x 75W SLI . Intel Core i7-3630QM - 2,40 - 3,40GHz 6MB 45W . 16GB> > (2x8192) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1600MHz CORSAIR Vengeance . 256GB SATA-III> > SSD Crucial RealSSD M4 (CT256M4SSD2 Cooling --> Fail PC I7-3770k - 3.50 GHz 32 GB CORSAIR Vengeance AMD Radeon HD 7900 Samsung SSD 830 Series 120 GB but only 20 GB left -.- big Noctua Cooler decent MSI board SSD -> Fail running 3 or 4 bots each is stupid. So much parts of my machines are overkill and help nothing *lol* So my next step is cleaning up my 120 GB SSD and try to get more bots on one system to save power... what do you think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicz 7 Report post Posted February 1, 2014 dont hijack but you dont need 32gb ram. and amd are better for botting because amd has true 8 cores for multitasking. a 90$ amd fx 8320 benchmarks at 8118, where my like 300$ intel 2600k benchmarks at 8400... spend 50$ more (140$) on the amd 8350 and it benchmarks at 9k... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefNoob 2 Report post Posted February 1, 2014 I would not bot on a laptop, those are not made to keep up 24/7 at full load. Your PC should handle 8 bots just fine though. Do a fresh install on it and test Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
